Hi Jess, finally through. I love it.
Need to ask some questions.
1. Can we keep this for months?
2. Can we add tapioka flour? Instead of potato starch?
Hi there,
Thanks for joining!
1.yes, you need to store the paste in the freezer for months.
2.No, i already tried with different flours & starches but as I mentioned in the lessons, potato starch is able to stablize the paste & make it shrink less to achieve either ruffled or non-ruffled effects for all types of flowers.
Kind regards,
Jessica
Hi there,
If you watch on a computer/laptop, the course material is simply visible at the end of the list of lessons beside each video.
The arrows on tab “search” normally appear when you watch on a smart phone or an IPad.
If you can’t still find again, send an email to my assitant at ask@cakejess.com for support.
Best,
J
Thank you for your speedy reply Jess. I’m on a laptop and I hadn’t scrolled down far enough on the lessons list!! Found it now!
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You can use glutinous rice flour alone or add corn starch instead of potato starch, but the paste will be more fragile when it dries and it will shrink a bit, as I explained in the lesson.
The recipe I use, up till now, gives the best outcome in making flowers. Hopefully you can find potato starch in your place or online.
in humidity, it is (it doesn’t collapse in humidity like gum paste); but in extreme dryness, it will dry hard ( bean paste behaves the same); but in general, it’s not so flexible like bean paste.
as long as you keep it in good condition, it stays forever like gum paste flowers.
It works. You may find it easily if you watch on a computer; but on a smart phone or IPad, perhaps you need to click on the arrows on the tab above the video.
Best,
it’s pliable, smooth, easy to roll out. the thing that it’s more or less pliable depends on the ingredients you use: different brands of flours may give different textures, but the difference is not much. But if it’s rubbery, maybe you cooked it too much. I said in the lesson maximum 4 minutes to cook; if it’s hot in your area, 3 minutes of cooking is enough.
Hope you figure out the issue if you find that rubbery texture is not comfortable to work with!
Just make flowers and let me know the outcome.
Hi Jess, the paste coloured beautifully and I was able to make some lovely life like roses. However I had a lot of trouble making wired petals, and leaves, once the paste dried all the wires cracked out of the petals.
Hi Emmy,
The problem of wiring happens to all floral paste. Please check whether:
1.you use proper wire size?( for most small to medium size petals, I use wire 28)
2.you use enough glue? Too much or forget to use glue on the wire before wiring may cause problems
3.you make the groove thick enough to get the wire inserted in? ( many people make this mistake, it’s about not putting enough pressure when rolling out the paste on the groove board)
4. You roll the paste too thin? Paper thin petals make a flower look delicate but this is a trick. We need to make the petals thin on the edges but keep the lower part not very thin to keep the wire in place.
5. You assembled the petals into the flower when they are not completely dry? Wired petals will break at wired parts when you do this
6. It is very dry in your working room either with strong air conditioner or dry weather?
7.you followed my recipe strictly? Any adaptation in using the ingredients and proportions can change the paste quality.
Any “yes” to above questions can be the reason.
Hope to hear good news from you!
Best,
Jessica
Thank you, all very helpfull advice. I think the problem may actually be with the cel board i purchased, it was a seconds model on sale and watching online flower tutorials I can see the ridge i get on the rolled paste seems to be a lot smaller on my cel board. Thanks again for your reply. .
Hi,
The reason why my rice paste can be a flower paste is that it has glutinous rice flour which has 100% amylopectin,the material that makes it so strong & pliable.
All kinds of starch cannot replace cause most of the protein in the flour is already derived from it and it’s not that strong any more.
Regards,
Jessica
Hi,
Of course you can, the liquid flavors can be added together with water; but i’m curious why you don’t like the smell of it; glutinous rice is always sweet!
Hi there,
I never sieve them because they are so fine but I’m not sure whether you have the flours with the same textures like mine; so you may need to sieve. Rice paste flowers may last like sugar flowers; in humid countries, they stands for longer because they hold shapes very well in high humidity. The same rule for protecting sugar flowers can be applied to rice paste ones: The better you store them ( not in extreme dryness or humidity, no frequent changes from dryness to humidity and vice versa), the longer they can last.
Best regards,
Jessica
Hi Jessica, I’ve made this paste a few times and used it to make wied flowers, but when i tried to make a non wired flower using a styrofoam center, the petals cracked and fell kf the styrofoam as it would not stick. This happened when the flower is already dried. What am I doing wrong ?
Good Day from Down Under! My question is if i wan to make a white rose how can i make the dough white? Can i use titanium dioxide and in what proportion to the recipe?
Hi Evelyn,
I’m so sorry I have no experience in using titanium dioxide to whiten the paste.
Rice paste itself is pale white and though it’s not as white as what we see in gum paste, rice paste flowers will look whiter when they get dry. I’ve been happy with that shade of white. You can see the white rice paste rose in the gallery on cakejess.com which I used no color filter on the photos.
Thank you,
J
Hello, I just bought your Online Course „Rice Paste Flower“. I am a little bit confused.
I decided to buy that course, because I am looking for flowers that blossom are very flexible and natural like real flowers. What I see in the Video is that the blossoms of your flowers are stiff and not flexible as you get from Gum Paste.
My question:
How do I work with Rice Paste so that the blossoms of the flower get soft and keep soft.
Hi,
Actually We’ve never said that rice paste flowers keep soft. All edible flowers will dry hard eventually. I myself asserted rice paste flowers can be flexible & can’t break easily even I dropped them hard but in certain conditions, that’s tropical weather or high humidity. I think you míunderstand about gumpaste too because gum paste gets very stiff when it’s dry. Rice paste is stronger than gum paste when getting dry.
The reason why I introduced rice paste because it has some strengths: easy to make, creating pure, translucent flowers that sometimes don’t need to be dusted to look natural, flexible and strong, not easy to collapse like gumpaste in high humidity & when rice paste flowers dry, they are less fragile than gum paste.
An edible flower paste creating flowers that keep soft all the time in all weather & preservation conditions is still a dream in the industry so far! All flower paste brands I know only create flexible flowers ( not soft as real flowers) but under certain conditions!
Best,
Hi,
I haven’t tried it, but potato starch is added to make the paste more stable, the petals will not shrink to much as glutinous rice flour on its own.
If tapioca starch can do the same, we can use it instead.
Best,
Hi Jess, I have been using this recipe for a while now and it’s wonderful, but my most recent batches have been difficult to work with. I find that while a flower is drying the petals are just getting crumbly and breaking off, also the paste is shrinking despite the potato starch
I’m also having trouble gluing the petals to the rose cones for example. I’m wondering if you had any experience with this, could it be from ingredients that are not fresh enough or under/overcooking the dough? I can’t think of anything different. Thanks ?
Hi,
Rice paste can stay fresh for 3 days only if you preserve it in the fridge. After 3 days, it will be unusable.
We may need to cover the rose scone with a layer of the paste for easier attaching of petals.
And yes,a rice paste flower will shrink a bit, but it’s very little and doesn’t affect the overall look of the flower. If you find too much shrinking, it might be because of the ingredients you use.
Best,
Jessica
Comments
Does this paste dry hard like gumpaste/flower paste or does it stay pliable when dry?
Hi Soraya,
It will be dry hard, but quite strong in moderate or humid weather.
Hi Jess, finally through. I love it.
Need to ask some questions.
1. Can we keep this for months?
2. Can we add tapioka flour? Instead of potato starch?
Awaiting reply
Hi there,
Thanks for joining!
1.yes, you need to store the paste in the freezer for months.
2.No, i already tried with different flours & starches but as I mentioned in the lessons, potato starch is able to stablize the paste & make it shrink less to achieve either ruffled or non-ruffled effects for all types of flowers.
Kind regards,
Jessica
Where do I the download the recipe?
Pls click on the 2 -opposite -arrow symbol on the “search courses” bar. the list of lessons and material worksheet are on the left.
Hi Jess, cannot find recipe and course materials. There is no number 2 opposite the arrows. Please help as I’m keen to get started!!!
Hi there,
If you watch on a computer/laptop, the course material is simply visible at the end of the list of lessons beside each video.
The arrows on tab “search” normally appear when you watch on a smart phone or an IPad.
If you can’t still find again, send an email to my assitant at ask@cakejess.com for support.
Best,
J
Thank you for your speedy reply Jess. I’m on a laptop and I hadn’t scrolled down far enough on the lessons list!! Found it now!
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T. Leena
You said rice paste will keep in the fridge for four days. Can you not use it after four days?
No we can’t.
Is it not safe to eat? Or difficult to work with? Or both?
How long can it be kept in the freezer?
Yes, after 4 days, it’s not fresh enough to eat any more and not comfortable to work with either.in the freezer, for months!
If you freeze the paste will it work just as well once it has thawed to room temperature?
It will be harder than normal and need more kneading work.
what can i substitute for potato starch.. will it be the same if i use cornstarch?
You can use glutinous rice flour alone or add corn starch instead of potato starch, but the paste will be more fragile when it dries and it will shrink a bit, as I explained in the lesson.
The recipe I use, up till now, gives the best outcome in making flowers. Hopefully you can find potato starch in your place or online.
thank you… that was very helpful 🙂
Are the flowers flexible like the bean paste flowers? how long can you keep the flowers fresh to use on cakes?
in humidity, it is (it doesn’t collapse in humidity like gum paste); but in extreme dryness, it will dry hard ( bean paste behaves the same); but in general, it’s not so flexible like bean paste.
as long as you keep it in good condition, it stays forever like gum paste flowers.
Material link is not working i guess
It works. You may find it easily if you watch on a computer; but on a smart phone or IPad, perhaps you need to click on the arrows on the tab above the video.
Best,
I have just finished making my first batch of rice paste, is the texture supposed to be a little rubbery?
it’s pliable, smooth, easy to roll out. the thing that it’s more or less pliable depends on the ingredients you use: different brands of flours may give different textures, but the difference is not much. But if it’s rubbery, maybe you cooked it too much. I said in the lesson maximum 4 minutes to cook; if it’s hot in your area, 3 minutes of cooking is enough.
Hope you figure out the issue if you find that rubbery texture is not comfortable to work with!
Just make flowers and let me know the outcome.
Hi Jess, the paste coloured beautifully and I was able to make some lovely life like roses. However I had a lot of trouble making wired petals, and leaves, once the paste dried all the wires cracked out of the petals.
Hi Emmy,
The problem of wiring happens to all floral paste. Please check whether:
1.you use proper wire size?( for most small to medium size petals, I use wire 28)
2.you use enough glue? Too much or forget to use glue on the wire before wiring may cause problems
3.you make the groove thick enough to get the wire inserted in? ( many people make this mistake, it’s about not putting enough pressure when rolling out the paste on the groove board)
4. You roll the paste too thin? Paper thin petals make a flower look delicate but this is a trick. We need to make the petals thin on the edges but keep the lower part not very thin to keep the wire in place.
5. You assembled the petals into the flower when they are not completely dry? Wired petals will break at wired parts when you do this
6. It is very dry in your working room either with strong air conditioner or dry weather?
7.you followed my recipe strictly? Any adaptation in using the ingredients and proportions can change the paste quality.
Any “yes” to above questions can be the reason.
Hope to hear good news from you!
Best,
Jessica
Thank you, all very helpfull advice. I think the problem may actually be with the cel board i purchased, it was a seconds model on sale and watching online flower tutorials I can see the ridge i get on the rolled paste seems to be a lot smaller on my cel board. Thanks again for your reply. .
Hello there
how many hours after you have made the dough
thank you
what do you refer to?
I’m sorry for my bad english
We have prepared the dough
Can I use it immediately?
Hi Aylin,
Yes absolutely!
Hello, can I substitute glutinous rice flour with tapioca starch? Thank you
Hi,
The reason why my rice paste can be a flower paste is that it has glutinous rice flour which has 100% amylopectin,the material that makes it so strong & pliable.
All kinds of starch cannot replace cause most of the protein in the flour is already derived from it and it’s not that strong any more.
Regards,
Jessica
In France gluetinous rice flour isn’t avalaible so could i use white rice flour To replace it ?
No, white rice flour can’t replace. You can buy Thai glutinous rice flour from PARIS STORE 75018 or on amazon.fr
H Jess, I do not like the smell of the rice paste. Can you add any flavouring to the dough?
Hi,
Of course you can, the liquid flavors can be added together with water; but i’m curious why you don’t like the smell of it; glutinous rice is always sweet!
I guess I am just used to sugar flower paste. Can you also tell me how long rice paste needs to be out of fridge before using
When it becomes soft again to knead, how long depends on the temperature in your place
Jessica – can the rice paste be stored in the freezer and if so, for how long?
Thank you.
Hi,
Yes, it can be. Up to 6 months vacuum zipped.
Best,
Jessica
Hi Jess.. should i sieved the flours? And how long can flower lasts after being dried.
Hi there,
I never sieve them because they are so fine but I’m not sure whether you have the flours with the same textures like mine; so you may need to sieve. Rice paste flowers may last like sugar flowers; in humid countries, they stands for longer because they hold shapes very well in high humidity. The same rule for protecting sugar flowers can be applied to rice paste ones: The better you store them ( not in extreme dryness or humidity, no frequent changes from dryness to humidity and vice versa), the longer they can last.
Best regards,
Jessica
Hi Jessica, I’ve made this paste a few times and used it to make wied flowers, but when i tried to make a non wired flower using a styrofoam center, the petals cracked and fell kf the styrofoam as it would not stick. This happened when the flower is already dried. What am I doing wrong ?
Hi,
You need to cover the styrofoam in the paste, let it dry then attach the petals.
Best,
Jessica
Vi una pasta de arroz flexible. Se le puede hacer alguna modificación a esta receta para que sea flexible?
It’s Flexible in humid weather. I guess the rice paste you see is from where it’s humid enough. Or you can try adding glycerin and see.
Best,
Can potato flour be substituted with cornstarch? thank you. 🙂
It’s possible in terms of consistency but it will become more fragile. Potato starch stabilize the paste the best.
Good Day from Down Under! My question is if i wan to make a white rose how can i make the dough white? Can i use titanium dioxide and in what proportion to the recipe?
Hi Evelyn,
I’m so sorry I have no experience in using titanium dioxide to whiten the paste.
Rice paste itself is pale white and though it’s not as white as what we see in gum paste, rice paste flowers will look whiter when they get dry. I’ve been happy with that shade of white. You can see the white rice paste rose in the gallery on cakejess.com which I used no color filter on the photos.
Thank you,
J
Srta Jess Usaste puré de papas en copos en la receta ? En lugar de fécula de papas?
Hi,
No mashed potato is not white and doesn’t work to stabilize the paste as starch
Best,
J
Hello, I just bought your Online Course „Rice Paste Flower“. I am a little bit confused.
I decided to buy that course, because I am looking for flowers that blossom are very flexible and natural like real flowers. What I see in the Video is that the blossoms of your flowers are stiff and not flexible as you get from Gum Paste.
My question:
How do I work with Rice Paste so that the blossoms of the flower get soft and keep soft.
Thank You!
Hi,
Actually We’ve never said that rice paste flowers keep soft. All edible flowers will dry hard eventually. I myself asserted rice paste flowers can be flexible & can’t break easily even I dropped them hard but in certain conditions, that’s tropical weather or high humidity. I think you míunderstand about gumpaste too because gum paste gets very stiff when it’s dry. Rice paste is stronger than gum paste when getting dry.
The reason why I introduced rice paste because it has some strengths: easy to make, creating pure, translucent flowers that sometimes don’t need to be dusted to look natural, flexible and strong, not easy to collapse like gumpaste in high humidity & when rice paste flowers dry, they are less fragile than gum paste.
An edible flower paste creating flowers that keep soft all the time in all weather & preservation conditions is still a dream in the industry so far! All flower paste brands I know only create flexible flowers ( not soft as real flowers) but under certain conditions!
Best,
Hi Jessica,
Please let me know if I can substitute potate starch by Tapioca starch!
Thank you so much
Hi,
I haven’t tried it, but potato starch is added to make the paste more stable, the petals will not shrink to much as glutinous rice flour on its own.
If tapioca starch can do the same, we can use it instead.
Best,
Hi Jess, I have been using this recipe for a while now and it’s wonderful, but my most recent batches have been difficult to work with. I find that while a flower is drying the petals are just getting crumbly and breaking off, also the paste is shrinking despite the potato starch
I’m also having trouble gluing the petals to the rose cones for example. I’m wondering if you had any experience with this, could it be from ingredients that are not fresh enough or under/overcooking the dough? I can’t think of anything different. Thanks ?
Hi,
Rice paste can stay fresh for 3 days only if you preserve it in the fridge. After 3 days, it will be unusable.
We may need to cover the rose scone with a layer of the paste for easier attaching of petals.
And yes,a rice paste flower will shrink a bit, but it’s very little and doesn’t affect the overall look of the flower. If you find too much shrinking, it might be because of the ingredients you use.
Best,
Jessica
HI Jess,
Can we steam the paste?
Hi,
Yes we can steam the flowers the same like with sugar flowers
No , what I meant is instead of cooking the raw paste in water , can we put it in a foil and stem it.